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Your Life but Better with Stephanie Olivero
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Your Life, but Better with Stephanie Olivero
Stephanie Olivero is all things Fashion, Lifestyle, Real Estate, Health & Wellness and so much more!
She’s a 20+ year real estate broker in NYC, Brooklyn and Westchester and the founder of Baxter+Bayard, an organic + eco-friendly baby brand.
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In this episode, Colleen and Cheryl are joined by Stephanie Olivero, an expert in lifestyle, fashion, real estate, and the founder of an eco-friendly baby brand, Baxter and Bayard. They discuss optimizing personal and professional life, setting up systems for success, and the importance of emotional, physical, and mental wellness. Stephanie shares her journey from fashion to real estate, tips on getting the most out of your first home purchase, and how simplifying life leads to better personal and professional outcomes.
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We all want to be in our optimal state because when we're in our optimal state. That the contagiousness, contagious aspect of that, the, the, on through our family, through our businesses, through our relationships, and it just makes the world a better place. Right. If we can all be in optimal states. So talking about how do we get there? And so it's like physical, it's mental, it's emotional. And so they're little for me, the tips that work. I love things that I don't have to think about, Hello.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Hi, I'm doing it right.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:We're doing it really right today. I just want everyone to know that one, I have my AirPods in, two, I bought an extender for my internet for my office so that there's no more unstable internet, which is like constantly my problem. And I'm continuing to work on making my setup better. So I sound less like I'm in a toilet.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:If there's anybody that knows how to get Colleen's microphones to plug in and stay plugged in, that'd be great. If we could get a, some tech help over here, we'd appreciate that.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:am realizing it is. It might be a computer situation. I've literally had this MacBook for time and I think that might be what it is, but I just need to bite the bullet and when I say a long time, it's over a decade old. So
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:a girl. We just stretch that for its full usable life.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I really have. I mean, I can't even tell you when we bought this, but it is well over a decade old. It might be. Okay,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:to the kids.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:let's introduce our guest because the goddess is here and I cannot wait.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Is here. And this is our second attempt. We probably couldn't have any, had more things go wrong on Friday when we tried to do this. So here we are on a Sunday morning, my morning, your afternoon already. My husband has my kids and he's taking them away. So I'm just like at the most peace ever because I have childcare. I'm not paying for at the moment.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Amazing.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Stephanie Olivero is here. So she embodies all things, lifestyle, fashion, real estate, health, wellness. She's 20 plus years as a real estate broker in New York city, Brooklyn, and Westchester, and the founder of Baxter and Baird, an organic and eco friendly baby brand. So welcome, Stephanie. Thanks for being here.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:what I think it was last time, Stephanie? I think that your goddess is here. And then it's just broke the, the internet and all the technology. I
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:I do.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:literally
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:agree.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:So here's what I said last time, and I'm going to say it again because it's so true. When you, if you know Stephanie and you, when you see her and meet her, she is literally a goddess walking on earth. She is five 11 and a half and gorgeous. And more than that, like just your, you radiate like just. You radiate like beauty and poise and calmness and like intelligence and I was very lucky to have a dinner with Stephanie last year, last September. And it was like one of the best moments ever. And we just, she took me into this like fabulous, fabulous place. Where were we? Stephanie and Chelsea, where were we? We were somewhere fabulous.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:village. Yeah, we were. Yeah.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:And we just ate like delicious pasta and hung out and had great conversations and had cocktails and it was like literally a dream. And I'm just so glad that you're here and that everybody is going to get to meet you and know more about you and be as obsessed with you as we are. So, welcome.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:night, everybody. You.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:That's it. We're done.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:That's all. That's a wrap.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:That is the sweetest intro. My God. I love you both. It's so kind.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:both are, you radiate such amazing energy and it's contagious and you really know how to put a great group together. And I, I love that you're doing this. I love that you are engaging and successful in your businesses and your own rights. And then you come together to create this podcast and it's, it's just magic. You make the magic
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Somebody bring Tichu. We're all gonna have a moment here.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:a love fest here, but that's what we love. okay, Stephanie. So there, when thinking about what we wanted to chat with you about, you're so dynamic and have so many different things going on in so many different aspects of business that I think really important to impart on people. And one of the things that we love about you is when, when we think of you, we actually talked about this in one of our podcasts, but we think of you, which we know there's always more behind the curtain. We think of you as being somebody who is very calm and very what
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:it Demure? Is she like that definition of that TikTok trend?
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:very
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Yeah.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:cutesy, not cutesy, very, but just so confident in who you are and so confident in what you do. And, and you kind of have this slogan of like your life, but better, or, you know, like that's kind of something that you talk about quite a bit. So I would love for you one to tell us kind of your background because you've got such a great, like dynamic background. And then two, I do want us to dive into like, how did you get there? Like, how did you get to the point where you feel so confident in your business or you feel so confident in, in who you are and And being able to run this really wonderful real estate business and this really wonderful fashion business and all of that. Tell us, us how, tell us how it all started and tell us how you got where you are.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Thank you. Oh, well, I was born in upstate New York, moved to California, Northern California when I was four years
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Which I didn't know this. Talk about this
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:I didn't know this either. Where in Northern California?
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh, yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Hillsborough, those, the just Bay Area, South of San Francisco.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Okay. Okay. Oh
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:and then I knew I loved, loved growing up in California, but I knew I wanted to be in New York City for a very long time. And so I very early on fell in love with fashion, fell in love with creating products, fell in love with small business. I think in middle school, I created hair accessories with a little girlfriend of mine, and she did the, the barrettes, I did the headbands,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:my God.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:and we sold them to a really cute local store called Best Dressed Kids. I don't think they're around anymore, but it was this woman who was So chic, so lovely, really great small business owner. And she was so charmed by us coming in with our goods and wanting to sell them in our store. So she was our first like wholesale customer. So I sold bandanas there. I think I sold them for two 50. She retailed them for 5 and then I created a color card. And brought them to my middle school to sell it to my peers direct for 3. 50.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh, hell yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:and they could sell, they could buy them for less. So I had a business going there and then the school term, I could not sell my goods on campus any longer. So,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:do they hate entrepreneurship?
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:what's the
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah. What's the
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:I know.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:it kind of started there and, and like I started my career. In fashion, I went to, I, after growing up in California, I moved to the East coast for college, moved straight to New York city after college and had an over decade run in, in buying merchandising, product development, financial planning, all aspects of high end fashion with some top retailers. and then, we were, When I was at J. Crew, we were working on a software implementation, and I was the late, I took a leave to be the liaison between the technology team and the business to ensure that we were setting up systems that would connect the retail, retail division catalog and internet, because at the time they were all operated as three separate. Businesses from a tech standpoint. So, met my husband there. He moved to New York, and we were great friends. And then we were more than friends, and we eloped in Anguilla. And then I was kind of feeling I wanted something different. I, You know, there was no other fashion house I wanted to go to. I was feeling some burnout and I had purchased an apartment a couple of years prior in New York city. And really liked, I was kind of brainstorming how I would approach real estate a little bit differently. Really kind of bringing on the financial side of it and really kind of buy versus rent and kind of, I love spreadsheets. And then really tapping into, um, where people want to be, and I think, you know, at that time, and this is still the case, we kind of set up these, boundaries for, Oh, well, I'm, I need to live here. This is what I like
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right? Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:help people realize other, other areas that could be a great fit or where they could get more value or where they could be their optimal self and have their best life. And, and, um, so I decided to go into real estate that was over 20 years ago, and then a few years ago, I was really craving creating again, you know, we're in a service business for real estate. It's not a product base. And I wanted to create products and create a brand and kind of an ethos around that and decided to launch Baxter and Bayard which is an organic fashion line, cotton based products for blankets and onesies and bibs. And they're kind of like a modern day granimals, which is probably before your time, but it was where you would like. By the assortment, and they, they would tell you what goes with what, but the idea is that it's based on an animal print wearing clothing and then there are coordinating pinstripes with contrast color block and two tone and so very Sophisticated color palette, but very fun and playful. I think it's like 27 colors in the entire palette. And it was at a point where the baby space was very muted. Still pretty, pretty conventional in terms of teddy bears and ducks, you know, and I wanted to kind of, you know, branch out beyond that and introduce some quirkier animals and really see this as one of the first vehicles. In a relationship between babies, children, and parents, adults. The world is kind of the curiosity of, well, what is a lemur?
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah. Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:do they live? How do they live? And then the twist on that, the fictional piece was that they're wearing like human clothing. And that was really my, we, you know, we've talked about this a little bit before, but as a kid, I loved Babar. I love the Babar series and they're wearing clothing and they're like doing, they're playing tennis and they're doing normal things. And I think as a kid, like just seeing, seeing those ideas that are not real, but why not? You know, it just, it was just a very fun, playful thing. Stieg, of course, Sylvester and the Magic Pebble, one of my favorites. Also the, the clothing was so cute. Beatrix Potter
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:scary. Isn't Richard? It wasn't Richard. Was Richard scary around during that time? Yeah. Like that whole.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:I think you're right. They were wearing clothing, right?
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Launched that business a couple of years ago and just, it didn't replace real estate.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Mm hmm.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:I launched it. It was right before COVID. It wasn't intentional, but it just happened to play out that way. And so in New York city early on in COVID that the market was really coming to a halt and we had a freeze where we were working from home and, and so it allowed me to kind of really lean into this new business opportunity and do my 2 a. m. calls with India, do sourcing calls and, you know, the factory was shut down during COVID. So I launched a product that wasn't seasonally driven. It's not like I was launching a Halloween theme product where we really had to make a deadline. It could launch when the time was right. It took longer than expected, but, but it's been a lot of fun to run those run the two businesses.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I love
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:That's amazing. It
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I feel this very much and I don't know if it's was a very creative kid. You know, you talk about like making the hair bows and doing this stuff. Like I was. I painted a lot as a kid, and I was, like, when I was six for my birthday, we went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, that's what I wanted to do, you know, and and then I got into this, like, know, my career started in more like sports medicine, which was very medical and technical and science based, and I always kind of felt like I had to choose one or the other, like that those things could not exist together you know. And then when I had my construction business, I really leaned into the design side of that, but there was this very structural spreadsheet, mathematical number section to that. And I love that you kind of are embracing both of those things, both in your real estate business, but then also, you know, your fashion business as well, right? Like you're embracing that creative side and you're acknowledging that that's important to you and that that's something that you need to lean into But but it doesn't mean that you have to lean out of this more analytical You know, you love spreadsheets, which you know, you're speaking cheryl's language over there. Yeah
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:we love our spreadsheets. can make them whatever color you want. But, like, the, the spreadsheet is the anchor, right? That is the anchor of anything. And, it enables the creativity to happen. It's not like we're just spreadsheet people, Cheryl, right? It's not like we just do spreadsheets and that's it. It, like, get the spreadsheet lined up and then the magic, the creativity comes out of
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:It like organizes the thoughts and then necessities. And then it allows you, yes, to, to move on and, and relax. In my opinion,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:morning, my daughter was asking me, mom, what do you do when you're excited? Do we have a birthday party to go to this afternoon? She's really excited. I think she, I think she's struggling with some anxiety and trying to figure out how to work through these feelings. And I said, well, one thing you could do until it's time to go is control what you can control. So go get dressed, go brush your teeth, do the things that you know you need to do. And then maybe you could draw a card, you know, go put your energy somewhere. For what you're excited about.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:yeah,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:fingers crossed we did a good job on that.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:is that what you do with your spreadsheets? Okay
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Yes. That's what the spreadsheets are. Yeah. If I need to feel like I'm in control of something, I'm going to go build a spreadsheet and organize the thoughts and put the dollars and cents in there. If, if it's related to that and, or a schedule, building a schedule on a spreadsheet, like it's just a place to harbor and organize information that my brain needs to feel in control of
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Like, I feel like I'm understanding you guys a little bit better here, because I'm definitely a planner. I don't know that I the spreadsheet tool as much as you guys do, but I'm definitely a planner, and I'm definitely somebody who likes to have something to plan for. Does that make sense? I can't be me. Which is why I love goals, which is why I love, you know, when we talk about businesses, which is why I love goals, like I'm always working towards a goal. If I don't have a goal or a trip, I want to go on or a thing I want to, I'm planning for I feel a little bit.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Like floundering.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah. Just kind of like, what, what the hell am I doing? If I'm not doing one of these things, it even like, I don't know if you guys can see it, but I have, have you guys seen that big ass calendar? Have you seen that? I think I told you about that.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:have the big ass calendar on here because I like to. I can see my whole year. I have it all planned out with, with post it notes and color blocking and stuff like that. I wish I could show you guys. But anyway, so I, I had always kind of, I feel like I can understand where you're coming from with the spreadsheets now a little bit more because I was not, I was not with you on the spreadsheets. They sound terrible to me, but
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:successful moment, then that's
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:We've had a breakthrough.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:it's like a play. I play in different ways.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:yeah, well, to layer onto that too, because I think we have more in common than we don't.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:But the spreadsheet thing, and what I say with my husband, so I, I'm also, the spreadsheet also ties to list making
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah, I'm a list maker.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:obsessive. Yeah. A common dispute that we, not lately, but we've, we've had many times on the weekends is what's our plan today? What are we doing today? You know, if, if I'm not working, if he's not working, well, what are we doing today? he's very loose he doesn't make a plan. He just like, goes with it. Right. And for me, I'm like. I have a list, but I don't like that. I'm the only one keeping track of a list. what I tried to explain to him was, and he's like, well, I just am not as I don't think he said controlling, but maybe he did controlling about what we need to do with the day. But what I said to him was like, the, the organization around the day is what's needed to create room for the
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Okay.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:to create room for the spontaneity. So I'm not doing this because. to control our day. I'm doing this because I want to get the things done. We need to get done to protect that space that we can be spontaneous and have fun and go with, you know, so sometimes having the plan is really more about creating room to, for spontaneity than it is plan your own, your entire life and not have room for kind of some fun magic.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Well, and that speaks a lot to what we've talked about recently about, especially like with with Susie about setting up guardrails, right? Like, if we talk about systems and processes it helps you set up those guardrails so that you can do the things that you want to do, but you're not like floundering into the abyss of around talking about what are we going to do for like, five hours of the day and then the day's gone, right? Right. that's a little bit of that, like, guardrails and boundary setting, or, you know, whatever you want to call it, structure, I guess, is what that is.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Controlling what,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:I
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:controlling what needs to be controlled
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:you freedom for the things that don't need to be controlled.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:right.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:And like, and can put your mind at peace to be able to explore that freedom because you can trust that Oh, I've, I'm within my guardrails here and I've checked everything off this list and I've thought of everything on this spreadsheet or I have a, some place to go back and make sure I've thought of everything. So now my brain can stop focusing and stressing or being angsty over here. And now I can go enjoy this over here.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Well, and Stephanie, this, we, in our previous conversation on Friday, you talked a lot about setting up rituals for yourself, or different things, like, That you do that helps you kind of set yourself up for the day or set yourself up for success So talk to us a little bit more about that. I know you talked about like you love to wear all black Tell us
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:So
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:why?
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:talking about, we were talking like our goal in the end, I think we share this goal. We all want to be in our optimal state because when we're in our optimal state. That the contagiousness, contagious aspect of that, the, the, on through our family, through our businesses, through our relationships, and it just makes the world a better place. Right. If we can all be in optimal states. So talking about how do we get there? And so it's like physical, it's mental, it's emotional. And so they're little for me, the tips that work. I love things that I don't have to think about, you know, that, you know, wearing black kind of is it works for New York. It's just. Yeah. You know, it's a dirty city. It's you know, but it's also just this idea that it creates a like strips the palette and then You don't have to overthink like what you're wearing. So for me, it just works I was wearing black turtleneck cashmere turtlenecks in california and I was like a an odd one You know, I was meant to be out here.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:you are
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:But I think, yeah, and having like multiples and not having to rethink it every morning and a lot of, you know, a lot of people in leadership think that way, you know, we know about
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:well, it's like the steve
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:and the
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:the steve job.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:black turtleneck.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Absolutely. Yeah. So it's not revolutionary, but it does make a big difference in kind of preserving that you know, the decision making, you know, of the day and kind of setting the setting of the day. The green juice in the morning is like one of my favorites. It's just, I freeze all of the ingredients. It's micro greens, it's organic limes and organic ginger. The ginger root and just chopping it up, freezing it in the freezer so that just put water in a blender and then mix it together. And I start my morning with that and I nurse it through the day and it just regulates my nervous system. So that's a good one. And then movement has to be like the other day I, I did a, when we talked on Friday, I did a walk. nature in the morning and where we live in Bedford, New York, the cell service is really bad. It is changing, but there are pockets where we have zero service. So can't bring I'm not really listening to music. I'm not
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Hmm. Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:breathe and, just appreciate where I am right now, appreciate where we live, appreciate what it's doing for my family, for, and for, for me, professionally and personally, and so that notice a difference if I get through the day and it's, and I'm in a state where I'm not feeling great, or I'm not feeling connected to self or connected to, you know, husband or anybody I'm talking to, if I feel like there's some, there's some you know, stress in that conversation. It's like, did I work out today? Did I drink the green juice? Did I get good sleep? It's really those 3 basics as kind of the foundation. And then from there, you know, deep breathing is so helpful. I think we were talking to about, you know, any, any conflict that comes up. Yeah. In our business or in our personal lives. It's just, I mean, in the end, I think we're all like these wounded children's walking in the world in human. Human meat suits. That's it. I don't care how old you are. There's vulnerability in all of us. And we're all kind of getting through our own little struggle. And and it pops up though, it pops up when we're not in optimal state. So how do we get there? So it's the physical, it's figuring out what those routines are picking up. Lots of water is another one, also like, what do we really enjoy doing that then has that carry forward effect. So some of the things that we were talking that I was sharing with you guys. Was like, in in 1 week, it was getting a new car, which was really magical having an amazing deal close. And then it was like, finally pulling together the donation items. I was giving to the animal rescue group in our town. And that for me, like, I could tear up thinking thinking about when I brought it over and how. appreciative they were and what a difference it's going to make for them. That still stays with me. It's been several months that it happened or taking a good friend. Who's, you know, going through cancer treatments, taking her for lunch that stays with me, you know, so how can it's so much of that is like, Kind of giving back to others in a way that helps us feel connected with each other. It's beyond just the service. It's really the human connection helping each other, helping each other in little, little ways and in big ways. And, you know, of course the big, obvious, a big trip is great, but in the end, what's great about that trip, it was those little conversations with the,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Well,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:cheese shop and learning about how they've been. know, running it for multiple generations and like the care they put into it, you know, so breaking down what are those little moments or, you know, a conversation with a barista and like in and they see miserable and then you start chatting and your goal is like, just get them to smile and kind of loosen up and it worked, you know, like, that's like such a win, right? Okay.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I think too, like, so much of what you're saying is removing, I don't want to say removing stress or removing distractions, but kind of, right? Like, when you're on vacation, the best part about being on vacation is that you're not distracted. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like, I'm not taking my kids to school and stressing about the time we're getting there. We're not, know, like, freaking, I'm not freaking out about what deal I have to, sometimes I am, but, but, you know, like, you for all, you're not cleaning your house. You're not stressing about your regular day to day. You get to kind of just be, and you get to kind of just experience. And I think that that is one of the amazing things about travel and vacation and things like that. But also what you're, what I'm hearing you say too is like, when you're leaving your phone or going on your walk, like, you're getting to be out there and you're getting to just, Right. Like you're getting to
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:President be where your feet are. Yeah,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:present and, you know, these little rituals or these little things that you're doing that, like the juice and the, the exercise and the breathing and everything is like, know, getting us to, to that optimal state or to like, maybe that is your natural state or like who you really are as a person. And then I think it's really setting you up to take on all these other things, right? Like can call it being centered or you can call it whatever it is, but then you're setting yourself up for success to take on all the external stressors that are going to come at you during the day. And I've really realized recently, you know, we've talked about it so much about like exercise being part of diet culture and things like that. And I've really realized recently how important exercise is for me emotionally.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Thank you.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:and how important it is for me mentally to have those parts of the day where I am, know, like, I want to say, like, externalizing right where you're like, you're looking out, you're looking at nature or you're looking out or you're focusing even when I play tennis I can't introvert, I can't go in and think about my thoughts or think about my feelings or think about my problems because the ball's going to hit me in the face. Right? So you get to just kind of
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Okay. Okay. Okay.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:doing something for others. So that your selflessness, Stephanie, I heard you say your selflessness is so fulfilling to you. You know, it, it's, it can be almost selfish to be selfless because you know that you're going to, it's going to, it's going to help you get to your optimal state. So just having the toolkit full of here's something I could do in five minutes. Here's something I could do in an hour. Here's something I could do in two weeks. Like I feel myself getting to a place where I need some regulation and now I need to turn to my toolkit and see. Systems in process that tool, that list, like what can I do in this five minutes time to try and fill my soul? And then being aware in those moments too, when you're checking the things off that toolkit, if you will. One of the things I've noticed as I'm au pair list again, is I have quiet moments to myself throughout my workday, if you will, but I'm not. Always giving that the attention and realizing Oh, this is a quiet moment. I need to be paying attention to I could be using this to fill my soul if I'm giving it the awareness that it's happening. If I'm not present, if I'm not where my feet are, though, that quiet moment's going to slip by and I will have wasted it thinking
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Sure.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:or.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:that
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Or scrolling or whatever.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:it it slows time down,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Mm hmm.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:times down, time down, and it strips away the, the nonsense. So often we're spinning wheels and we're spending so much time and energy and negative energy on things that will end up in the same place, but we're filling it with negativity or we have the power to make it a better result in the end. Right? If we just like, it's I think we were, we were chatting to about skipping the needle. Where it just like jumps and then you're just in the right place and everything lines up like when that happens and you're in the flow, it's amazing. It doesn't happen all the time,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:where if we, if we're in optimal state though, it, the norm.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:a norm. It just happens. And then that carries forward into everything else in our lives and our relationships and our work and, and our everything. But it really does feel like, you know, we can have those days where like, Oh my God, I've got so much to do. And that language, there's no need for us to use the language
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:that just continues to manifest the same. And we start believing what we're saying. We believe what we think. And if we just clear it out, What's most important and kind of strip away the nonsense and it's hard to do when we're not in the physical state. And that's where the breathing or the movement
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right I
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:then gives us that foundation to like, it really simplify everything. Right? Okay.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:think too what I I think We hear self care as a buzzword so much and I think there's a lot of money that's now going into the self care industry. And I think we're, we're talking about self care as like face masks and this and that and whatnot. But I think when we really, if for me, like when you really break it down and when you really are thinking about it That getting to that optimal state or getting to that point where you can like function calmly or you know and calmly without stress or whatever you want to call it, right? That is what self care was trying to achieve I think like I think it's that that thing right and then of course as society has goes We've just decided that self care is a glass of wine for mommy and a face mask, right? but
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:right. We, we have to be so disciplined to control what it means for
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right, right,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:get caught up in the, the monetizing of that, because this is all basic,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:right
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:But you're so right. It, it has transitioned into this,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Capitalistic.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:absolutely. And it doesn't, it's so simple. It doesn't have to be that at
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right. And, but
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:No, literally, sometimes self care is like three games of Candy Crush with my bedroom door locked.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:yeah, I think, oh
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:couldn't
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Uh,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:had to take it off my phone.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:yeah, I mean, I can only do three because by the end of it, someone's screaming at my door for mommy.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:my God. Well, Stephanie, I want you to talk to us too, because we were talking a little bit about this, but you know, talk about real estate. Like, let's talk about real estate. We're not a real estate show, but we all do real estate and that's your business. So let's talk about it. And I think one of the things that I have observed in knowing you for the last two years is two plus years is how. How you run your business and how you present yourself and how much care and thought goes into, you know, not just how you present yourself in your business, but how you take care of your clients. So talk to us a little bit about like your philosophy in that or how you are approaching, you know, how you take care of clients and things like that. Cause I think that that is something the world needs to know.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Sometimes, you know, being a real estate broker, you know, our job is to sell real estate, but we're really not selling. We're not selling a product, right? We're selling a service. And so sometimes that service has nothing to do with selling real estate. I was talking to somebody yesterday, She was a trainer and she was saying, Oh, we, we just met and she's like, Oh, after a class and she's like, Oh, I think we live in this town. I think we want to move. And I said, well, I am a real estate broker, so I can help with that. But what's going on?
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:And she is, she and her business are so immersed in where they live and they love it. It's not like they're trying to get away from that. So we were talking about what about your house needs to be different for you to be excited about it. And we came to the conclusion that it's just about. Changing a color palette or getting some new furniture and so I think the beauty of real estate is it's. in yourself
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:hmm. Mm.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:it's investing in the end when we're focused on a primary home, you know, buying into real estate is the best way to build equity. From from my personal story, before I got into real estate, when I moved to New York, and I was in the fashion industry. Had a limited budget and looking for my first apartment. I remember it was like August days, late eighties in New York city, like pounding the pavement and being handed like the Ziploc bags of keys
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh my God.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:at apartments. They were boxes, you know, ground level boxes. I wanted to live in Chelsea, couldn't afford it, had to live on the Upper East Side there. It was cheaper. You know, just, you know, rounds of given given being given these ziplocs of keys and when I went back to the rental agency. For the next round. He said, well, this is a two bedroom, but you need to use your imagination.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:And so I went to see the apartment and turned out it was a fourth floor, fourth floor walk up with a bath, bathtub in the
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:my God.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:six 50 a month. so if it was the first one I saw, there's no way I would consider it, but I figured out I can do this. It's just me. It was a butcher block, literally a butcher block. Countertop on top of a clawfoot tub in this big kitchen
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh my God.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:was walking through the apartment. It was a road through apartment and there's a little room and a little room and then just a toilet. I was like, where's the shower? Where's the sink? And so the shower and sink were in the kitchen,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:my God.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:but all he is. My goal was, initially it was getting a rental for what I could afford. And then after that, it was when you realize how expensive it is to move. It was about planning, planning on buying and how I needed to save money to do so. So I was there for a couple of years before I upgraded to. Madison Avenue, fourth floor walk up a bathtub in the bathroom, you know, and so that was a little upgrade, but it was all, it was my income. It was the money I was making. I was, you know, you know, not giving any gift, getting gift money from family. And that was just tied to me working really hard in the industry that I loved and making those incremental upgrades in my salary and moving up the ladder and you know, when it came time to buying my first apartment, the, the monthly maintenance on the apartments, when you're buying a co op or condo, you're either paying curing costs, common charges, or when you buy a co op, it's a monthly maintenance,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:was more expensive than the rent I was paying.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:my God.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:when people are stuck in these rentals, these low price rentals, they really are golden handcuffs because it's preventing you from buying into real estate, building the equity. And so it was that first purchase that then enabled you know, and I got it on my own. It was before my husband, I met, but that was what really enabled us to upgrade to the next and then invest. And because we were, you know, we sold the apartment just a few years later and it was, you know, a great profit.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I think there's a great point there about like, when you buy your first home, it is not, and I honestly hate the term forever home. I hate it. I don't think that that is really a thing anymore. I think it was a thing previously, but I don't think it's a thing anymore. And I think what we don't talk about enough, it's like buying your first home is just getting into the real estate market, however you can. Oh
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:in, exactly. And don't be emotionally tied to the things, the physical things, the couch.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:my God. Tell us the couch story.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:I first yeah, like this was probably about 20 years ago. It was it was my first year and yeah, it was in real estate, but I was working with a client who been she was relocating from the south moving to New York City. And of course the space. Differential was huge
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:And she was, we were focused on one bedrooms and dorm and buildings and every apartment we looked at, it came down to measuring the walls in the living room. And it was like my L shaped sofa won't fit L shaped sofa won't fit. And so it's like, well, what is the size of the L shaped sofa? Okay. So then I was studying floor plans before we'd see them and seeing if it would work, if it could. And so, so much of our conversation in these apartments was like. Protecting the sofa. And in the end, she didn't buy. We saw so many places she didn't buy. She missed one of the most amazing markets to buy real estate in New York City. She could have sold that apartment. years later and made multiple hundreds of thousand dollars, but instead she was protecting her L shaped sofa.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:So she gave up hundreds of thousand dollars in, in profit protect a 3, 000 piece of furniture. And so that's where be so aware of when you're conducting the search as a consumer. What really matters to you and think bigger about it. Think bigger. Like, what is the lifestyle? What is the lifestyle shifts that's going to happen? Let me think throughout our lives, you know We're we have different needs at different times in our lives And I'm not even talking about For those who have children or don't have
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:who get married who don't get married or it's it doesn't even Necessarily correlate to our age, you know, because in some respects I feel like where I am right now. I feel You know looser, more there's more whimsy and kind of how I approach life than I was when I was 22. So it's not really an age, age thing, but but that really blocked her from making a move. And I think today, you know, I have the experience and the tools to kind of, You know, have the early conversation with the client. Like, what do you really want? And why it's because it was fear. It was a fear thing for her to be tied to that couch and that safety of of holding onto her couch. But in the end, it just, it, it wasn't serving her.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah. And I think you have to have it, you have to have a you have to be able to like, have a vision that goes further than what you're doing. Right? And if you don't have that, you need to hire somebody as your agent who does. Who can understand you and understand, like, what you might need. Like, when we bought our first house, you know, kind of under duress, I was pregnant with Everett, we had Vivian, we were living in my mom's two bedroom apartment in LA that she rented. Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Silence.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:like, I don't really think it's smart that you guys buy a house right now. Bye. Fuck you, like, don't tell me what to do. and we, we bought, we were able to buy, we made it happen. We were able to buy, but it was a house that was in an up and coming neighborhood. There were cars in the backyard, right? Like cute house, nothing wrong with it. It had been on the market for two years, but because of those six cars in the backyard, nobody could, nobody could see what was here. Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah. Uh,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:And I remember showing my mom the house and she just freaked, like, she could not see it, she could not get it, and in five years, I said to David, in five years, this is going to be a really good neighborhood. And buying in LA is similar to buying in New York, right? It's very difficult to get in. It's a very difficult entry point. And I said, in five years, this neighborhood is going to be really good. We sold five years later and we got, doubled our money. And it was, you know, what did we have to do? We had to take the, I mean, we put a lot of money in that, but we had to take the fixed cars out of the backyard, right? We had to paint, we had to
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:equity, right? And it, there was a lot of people who were like, why here? Why this house? Why, you know, or lots of judgments about where we lived or whatever, but know, man, I think we came out okay.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Well, and the other thing is you made that expense a fixed expense instead of an expense that could go up year after year after year.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:hmm.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:So super, that's super valuable too. And that's where now we're seeing these retirees that are starting to downsize and all of that. And it's like, how are they doing it? Everybody's, the younger people are all so bummed, like not bummed, but envious of like, how come they, they're coming in all cash? It's because they locked in a fixed expense 20 years ago before we inflated. Right. Over the last 20 years, so they've been their income has risen at the current point, but they locked in their expenses at a point. They could afford 20 years ago. So how beneficial that is. I keep thinking forward of I can't wait till we're ready to downsize because we're going to get something so nice.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:The first apartment I bought from that rent stabilized apartment, the first place I bought, I locked in an eight and a quarter and I felt lucky.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh my god. Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:mortgage rates and then my parents, their, their house, I think they had a mortgage in the double digits when, when they were in California at one
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh, yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:So it's not, it's temporary that, and you can always refinance, but. Colleen, you said something about forever homes and I agree with you. I don't think it exists anymore. And I think if anybody's using that terminology, rethink how you're living your life, because nobody knows where you don't know where you're going to want to be in a
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:No,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:You don't know where you're going to be in six months. That, that one change in your life can. Influence so many other factors in your life and you might find that there's just a completely different opportunity ready for you. Why lock in your home as being pre committing. I'm going to be here for 30
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:if that if
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Right.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:yeah, if you told me four years ago three four or five years ago that I was going to be living in a suburb of Indianapolis. I was like, you're hi. What drugs are you on? You just don't know what
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:don't
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I didn't plan on having three kids. You know,
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:so that's where so just to tie back. That's where we're talking about. you have the plan in place to protect the space for that magic to happen that may redirect big decisions you're making in your life, right? But what you, what you had set up for yourself, when you plan a mind that California house, you did the investments that made sense, you know, that plan was needed to have that. I don't know if there was spontaneity and making the move to Indianapolis or, or not, but, but it was something very different that you never would have planned
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Well, that facilitated it.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:It's been a great
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah. That facilitated us to be able to make this change that changed our life, right? Like not just the physicalness of our, of where we are, but was an opportunity for us to really go to the next you know, people, one of the things people said when we moved here, and this is not what we're talking about, but they were like, well, you know, obviously it's cheaper there. People like make less money. We both make more money here. we did in LA.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right,
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:because, you know, if we talk about like reducing stressors and things like that, that's. Part of what we did, right? Like of that was reducing the commute time for Javid, reducing the stress of the financial stress of, of living in Los Angeles and so many other factors we, when we were able to come here, it's like we were able to get to that optimal state. we go back to that, like we were able to get to that optimal state because we had removed so many external stressors from our life. And then what that did was like, my, my career has skyrocketed exponentially. Right. And think that there's so much to that.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:really gave you that room to lean into what parts of your business really get you
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Right. And when you're, when you're, when we're all of us, when we're doing something we're excited about, like it just, optimal state is, is kicking in and it's, and it's affecting others around us. And we're able to guide people to make smart choices because we're, we've got our life lined up.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:I have to share my dad's favorite quote that he said to me on repeat in my 20s is
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh, I love
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:is what happens while you're making plans. So like you'd have the best laid out plan in the world. And then, you know, you're, It's going to change. And then my therapist, favorite thing to tell me in my twenties also was the things that you're losing sleep at night about the anxiety that you have, that's rarely the things that take you out at your knees. Like it's like a wasted, it's a wasted energy because you're not going to see the shit coming that is going to actually Fuck you.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Like my kidney disease. Never in a million years saw that coming. Why would I? Never in a million. And that completely changed the trajectory of my life. And then our last home, when we moved into it, I was very sick at the time, but I told my husband like, you're taking me out of here in a body bag. I will. I'm dying in this house. I, I agreed that I was having the forever home there. I just couldn't imagine moving again. Well, then this property came up and there was an opportunity. You know, to have kind of the property pay for itself with the rental income that's on the property. And so we said goodbye to the other house. And then that enabled me to leave a career that was sucking my soul and move into an optimal state. Like we had to trade the thing and let me tell you, I love that house we sold and I want it back. And I would live there today and be very happy, but this opened a door that we wouldn't have opened there. So just being like open to. And trust the universe is working for you, not against you.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yes.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:that for the best, you know, like I, it's hard. I've had really hard years in my life dealing with it, but I am more open minded and more empathetic and more down to earth. And I do know that what's the most important thing in the world is your health, your family, your people. It's not the career that I was so focused on then. I'm still super career focused. I want the finances. I want the money. I want the success. I know to slow down when I need to slow down because I was given the gift of a reality check in my 20s.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Mm-Hmm.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Beautiful. And as soon as you loosen your grip on it, Then it all, it all elevates, right? You're,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:And that mentality has guided everything. I mean, calling the other day, we were talking about the thing about how I do every deal with a partner. And a lot of that is because I don't know if I won't feel well at some point, like I, I could have a flare up and be like shit for a week, you know, COVID knocked me down really, really hard, probably harder than most of my peers. Like those types of things affect me in a different way. And I've just created this. world where that's okay. If I need to clock out and say like, okay, my partner is going to take it from here this week and I can just rest. If I need to, or like the girls need me. I do
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:uh,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:because that's what's important.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:So smart because you, in the end, you're, Health is number 1, you are not compromising your commitment to your clients and to your loved ones because you're setting up the system. The system being that partnership, I know you, you wouldn't partner with someone unless they're amazing. And and that's giving that was your plan. That was lining it up to make your. Your life fall into place
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:for those things that may flare. And,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:I mean, we hope they know, but.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:the stress too, because you're not carrying the stress of, Oh, what's going to happen if X happens? What
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yes.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:at it? It's lined up.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Mm hmm.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:you've already set up your plan
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Right.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:can, and it's not about compromising your, your needs, your health needs.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Right. Because we don't get to compromise that.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:No,
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Stephanie, I'd love to be here with you for another 17 or 18 hours or so, but I'm sure people have things to do. So where can people connect with you if everybody fell in love with the goddess like we did? Where do we find you and how do we work with you?
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:gotten enough of the goddess. You need more.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:you're so cute. Oh my God. Um, it's, I'm mostly on Instagram, I think for social health. So for real estate, it's so NYC real estate. That's so dot NYC dot real estate. Baxter and Bayard is at Baxter and Bayard. And if you go to my real estate profile, you'll see in my, my bio, I have Baxter and Bayard as a link there too. So I can be easily reached in both spots
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:And of course we'll put it all in our show notes. Well, we do have a couple of rapid fire questions for you that this is a new, this is a new thing.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I forgot about our new segment.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Okay.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Is there an app or like a technology that you could not run your businesses without right now?
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Canva. Over between the, the Baxter Bayard for creating content there and, and for real estate as well. And both of my websites are built on can or built Canva and Squarespace.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:We're aligned there. What book or podcast has changed the way you look at your business?
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Sarah Blakely is great. You know, I, I don't think there's one that really stands out. I like Rich Roll a lot. Rich Roll is great. And all, and even early on was like almost 30 was amazing.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Oh. Okay.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:wellness and health and, you know, And and all of that. I guess, yeah, I've got some, my, my, my podcasts are saved. Your podcast is amazing. I've got so many and I'm always saving them and going back to them and listen to a lot of podcasts.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:last one. If you could jump in a time machine and go back and find 25 year old Stephanie, what would you tell her to ensure a smoother ride to where you are today? too.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:much.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Fair. Valid.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:And God go to bed earlier.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I love it.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:I'm still a night owl.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:I love it.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:it's tough. No, I, I think don't get so caught up in about what people think of you or, you know, don't hold back because of that fear. Just like put it out there and make mistakes. Like even in my family. I, I try to remember people's names. So when I'm meeting anybody, whether it's, you know. We're doing a renovation. So knowing everybody's name in the house or, and sometimes I miss it up. Sometimes I I'll, I'll say the wrong name. And, and I think at my 25 year old self would think that was the end of the world.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Yeah.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:it's like, Oh my God. But now it's just like, I'm so sorry. You just like get over it. So I think it was just, don't, don't be so hard on yourself.
cheryl_6_10-06-2024_095040:Well, thank you so much, Stephanie. Such a joy to have you.
colleen_4_10-06-2024_125040:Come back a billion times.
stephanie-ollivero--she-_4_10-06-2024_125040:Such a pleasure talking to you always.
